eye-of-a-cat: Is it Rusty writing [the Tennant specials]?
Mad Scientist: He's writing two, and co-writing two
Mad Scientist: First one is RTD and Gareth Roberts
Mad Scientist: 2nd is RTD and Phil Ford
Mad Scientist: then last two are an all-rusty massive blowout
eye-of-a-cat: That could either be amazing or Flying Jesus Doctor Extravaganza, couldn't it?
Mad Scientist: it's going to be the Flying Jesus Doctor Extravaganza to end all Flying Jesus Doctor Extravaganzas
Mad Scientist: it really is
eye-of-a-cat: he'll have actual *wings*
Mad Scientist: They'll unfold from his hair
eye-of-a-cat: YES!
Mad Scientist: To cover his entire body
Mad Scientist: Then the GLOW
Mad Scientist: then they fold back into the hair and ...
Mad Scientist: ELEVEN!

(TM) and (C) Mad Scientist Concepts, Inc, 2009, for since he is probably going to see this (you know it's love when: your boyfriend gets to read your fannish livejournal), it seems only fair to award the rights!

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Saturday, 3 January 2009 18:37
Well, that was unexpected.
eye_of_a_cat: (frog)
A bundle of links etc. to catch up people who are confused by this whole troll/sockpuppet/plagiarism deal. I can't say I'm any less confused than you are, but in the interests of sharing information, here you go.

For those still going 'The who wait what?' - the saga in which [livejournal.com profile] spiletta42 is unfairly accused of plagiarism is covered here.

Some backstory, then: )

This time around: )

Why I don't think this adds up: )

And finally: )

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May 2011 ETA, because it seems this has all come up again. GOSH WHOEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED.

To be honest, I don't even know what the original claims are this time round (plagiarism again, I think?). Spiletta's posted a 'short version' here. It seems, at least, that a) people are accusing her of bad things in fandom, b) said 'people' are anonymous or very recently created LJs, and c) one of the bad things said person/people are accusing her of is creating all these accounts as sockpuppets to attack her.

Does that sound familiar? Why yes, yes that does sound familiar. Again.

And although it's been two and a half years - two and a half years! - since I posted this, people are still pointing to and posting links to and commenting on this post. Some of said people seem to have a vested interest in staying anonymous and Bringing Spiletta Down, which I feel somewhat oogy about for reasons I'll explain below.

So, here we go:

1) I have no interest, no interest whatsoever, in driving Spiletta out of fandom or blackening her name or leading any sort of fandom hit squad against her. Regardless of whether she's been trolling herself or whether someone from RL is trolling her, I am not interested in bringing any sort of fandom justice down on her head. It bothers me to get linked to as some kind of spearhead of a campaign to drive her out of fandom, firstly because I have no interest in driving out of fandom, and secondly because there's a whole lot of trollish sockpuppetish hysteria about how We Should All Drive Her Out Of Fandom, and fuck that. Does she write good stories? Then okay, enjoy the stories. The quality of her fic will not be affected one way or the other by whatever is going on here.

2) With that said, I stand by what I said above. I am not absolutely convinced that she herself is the person behind this vicious troll/abuser, but after eight years (eight years!) of stuff that really seriously doesn't add up, I am most of the way there. Originally, I put this post up because people were getting curious about who I was discussing in this one (you can work out from the comments why I became less bothered about maintaining everyone's anonymity), and the idea was to give a bit more backstory on the situation to people who were, like me back then, hugely curious. I'm happy for it to continue serving that purpose.

3) And, with that in mind:

Back when I posted this in 2008 (2008!), I got a few messages in connection with it. One of them was from Spiletta herself to me, which I obviously won't be reposting or discussing here (although I will say it really didn't convince me that she wasn't the troll; it did, however, convince me that whatever she was dealing with was not a huge amount of fun for her). Another one was from Spiletta to the mods of various affected communities, asking them to pass on the enclosed information to anyone who needed to know. She asked for that information not to be made available to the general public, because she didn't want the troll/abuser to know about a specific step she was taking; since years have passed and she's since posted publically about that step in her journal, I'm guessing that's less of a concern these days, but, y'know, still. So I won't be reposting or quoting from that message, and I won't be relating the personal specifics of what it said. I'll talk in general terms about some of the information it relayed, though.

(This post was written after receiving both of those messages. If you're picking up a general tone of me backing away with my arms in the air and yelling "AIEEEEEE!" from that, you're not wrong.)

So: what was said in that message was that the troll/abuser's activities were not specific to, or even worse in, fandom-land. They'd been doing much worse stuff in RL: stuff including threats, blackmail for money, identity theft (to the degree of opening internet accounts in her name), and defamation to RL acquaintances. So part of the reason Spiletta wasn't contacting LJ Abuse or anyone else about the online events was because she was dealing with the RL fallout; another part, and why she didn't take steps like going straight to the police, was because the troll/abuser's identity theft was extensive enough that she was concerned she'd be held responsible for actions it chose to take.

You can draw whatever conclusions you like from that, but one I think we can all agree on is that whatever the hell is going on here, it goes way beyond fandom.

(I understand that Spiletta claims to have gone to the police since then, and since these events were several years ago, that's totally plausible. This was back in '08, though; back then she wasn't interested in going to the police for the RL stuff, and wasn't interested in reporting her own hacked journal to LJ Abuse for the online stuff, to the degree of asking those in fandom not to report it either. I'm not saying that handling a situation like this poorly is, in and of itself, anything like evidence that the situation is a lot shadier than it seems. On the other hand, when the situation seemed really suspiciously odd anyway, and then it turns out the troll/abuser's IP address is disturbingly similar to your own, and then you're setting up pre-emptive alibis about how it's had access to your computer and opened ISP accounts in your name? Mmm.)

4) But. BUT. And please bear this bit in mind very, very strongly if you're tempted to bring me into some kind of fandom trial about What She Deserves:

- If she's being stalked by an RL harasser, she's dealing with someone who posts
this kind of thing about her. Fandom screaming at her is really not going to help.

- If she's doing this herself, she's dealing with a long-term habit of posting this kind of thing about herself. Fandom screaming at her is really not going to help.

- And whatever she's dealing with, it's not escaped my notice that a lot of what the troll/abuser is doing this time round appears to be concerned with accusing her of faking it all for the attention, and demanding that everyone drives her out of fandom because of it. Again - be that voice RL harasser, or be that voice Spiletta herself, it's not a voice that I want to be siding with.

In short: whatever's going on here, it's way above fandom's pay grade. Waaaaayyyyy above. And whatever's behind it, I don't think she deserves to be thrown out of fandom; she's either the victim of an incredibly long-lasting and oddly-acting harasser, or she's a very seriously unhappy person, and neither of those things mean she's a bad human being or she deserves to be punished.
I'm going to keep identifying names out of this for now, because it's entirely possible that I am really misreading this one, and in that case the person being unfairly misjudged is going through enough bad stuff without dealing with yet more rumours. (Besides, if you're around particular fannish communities, then you'll probably know who it is anyway.) But. Um.

Troll-sockpuppet-slander-plagiarism-drama )
Wait, wait. We're not really having a fandom-wide debate about whether or not it's okay to reveal people's real-life identities against their wishes, are we? Really? Sweet heaven. Okay, then, preaching to the choir this may be, but here's my stance. )
Referring to the, um, spoileriffic thing from, er, towards the end of the episode.[Poll #1212825]
eye_of_a_cat: (restart/resume?)
I haven't seen 4.08 yet, and so I fully accept that everything I am about to say might be dealt with in that one and that I will sound fairly stupid to everyone who's further ahead than I am. But I am saying it anyway. So, okay, here we go, with spoilers for 4.04 and up to there behind the cut.

(no subject)

Wednesday, 21 May 2008 01:48
eye_of_a_cat: (restart/resume?)
Have internets at home. Yay!

Spent whole day alternately marking student essays and catching up on BSG. Have overdosed on both and am still not finished with either. Getting increasingly mixed up and now want to mark BSG down for failure to reference correctly and shout at students for irritatingly misogynistic tendencies. (More worryingly, am beginning to suspect it could work that way round, as well.)

Need coffee. Also sleep. But where sleep fails, coffee steps bravely in.

(no subject)

Tuesday, 20 May 2008 11:43
Since when did LJ interests have to be 4 words or less? What's even the point of that? Bah and damn it.

Anyway, the one I'd have there if I could is 'all the fictional women you hate'. <3

Alias fic rec

Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:18
[personal profile] kangeiko wrote the gorgeously wonderful story resolve me of all ambiguities for me in the ninebillion ficathon, on the subject of what Milo Rambaldi is to Jack Bristow. I suggest you read it when you've got quite a few moments free, because if you're anything like me you're going to go straight back to the beginning and read the whole thing through again at least three times...

BSG fic

Sunday, 16 March 2008 13:45
eye_of_a_cat: (restart/resume?)
My story for the [profile] ninebillion ficathon - 'The Kindly Ones' (BSG 2003, written for [personal profile] anonymous_sibyl) - is up here, if anyone's interested. Laura Roslin and a Cylon, spoilers up to late S3.

And whether BSG's your thing or not, it's worth heading over to the community anyway now that the exchange fics are appearing. There are some gorgeous, beautiful stories on there from all sorts of fandoms. Go! Read!
Name a character from one of my fandoms, and I'll give you either (a) three facts about them from my personal canon/fanon, (b) a reason he/she sucks, (c) a reason he/she is awesomecakes, (d) five things that never happened to that character or (e) five people that character never fell in love with and why. You pick the character. I pick the letter.

Fandoms: Babylon 5, Alias, new-school Doctor Who, new-school Battlestar Galactica, Tolkien (although I'm a little rusty here), Big Love, anything Joss Whedon, Heroes (s1 only! Finale is tonight), and, um, anything else you've heard me talk about on here.

All is fandom

Wednesday, 15 August 2007 23:51
(Don't ask about the thesis.)

Comment with one of my fandoms, or a fandom you think I might know, and I'll reply with:

01. The first character I first fell in love with
02. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now
03. The character everyone else loves that I don't
04. The character I love that everyone else hates
05. The character I used to love but don't any longer
06. The character I would shag anytime
07. The character I'd want to be like
08. The character I'd slap
09. A pairing that I love
10. A pairing that I despise
All right, fandom. I think we need to have words.

I'm guessing everybody on my friendslist who's fannishly inclined, whether or not they keep up with [community profile] metafandom, knows that there's a big discussion about readerly/writerly responsibility going on at the moment, leading on in large part from the drama that was Strikethrough '07. Anyone who hasn't and wants to catch up (God help you) might start with this post of [community profile] heatherly's, titled 'Responsible Writing'; it's getting referenced a lot, and the six pages of comment threads are a good indication of what people are saying and how strongly they feel about it.

I've been holding off on saying anything about this for a while now, partly because the debate was getting so vicious in places and partly because I wasn't sure if I had anything coherent to say beyond "GOD, FANDOM," and that wasn't going to help. But since I'm one of the people who does believe there's such a thing as 'responsible writing'. and since people who share that view are being accused of everything from censorship to betraying fandom, I thought it might help to clarify what I mean by that. I say 'clarify' because it seems, still, like most of the bad feeling over this is coming from a series of misunderstandings about what the issues are and where people stand.


(Oh, and please feel free to disagree with anything I've said there. Comments are open and unscreened, the post will remain unlocked, and I really do think having actual conversations about this issue would be a Good Thing for fandom. As for the panicky, hostile accusations made about [info]heatherly's post and others like it, re: the ignorance/treachery/imbecility of people whose polite disagreement was equated to censorship, I'm just going to assume everyone was having a very bad day then and has since got over themselves with the help of a nice cup of tea and a sit down. Right? Right.)

ETA:
If I don't reply to comments for a while (as of 22/06), it's not because I no longer think the conversation's worth having, but because I have to be at an airport in a few hours and don't know if I'll have internet access where I'm going. I do plan to reply to all new comments when I return, though

GIP

Monday, 11 June 2007 22:21
Stephen Moffat should write every Doctor Who episode from now on. Every Doctor Who episode. Can we appoint him Who Laureate or something? I for one would consider this a worthy use of my license fee. Also, if Jack turns out to be the Master with conveniently retconned amnesia and/or Jackie Tyler returns as the Rani, I called it first.

I'm now all caught up with Battlestar Galactica, too. Spoilers... )

Back in this world, I would like to have a word with whoever put all these hills around my house - I'm looking at you, retreating glaciers from the last ice age - about how much nicer it would be to jog on a flat surface. The fact that I will have absolutely killer legs again in a couple of months is not making my calf muscles feel any better today.

And now, back to the wonderful world of changing the style of a journal article from MHRA to MLA, which sounded so simple at the time and which is turning out to be the kind of punishment bad academics get given in Hades. GAH.
Babylon 5 people, two stories you should read: [livejournal.com profile] crackjackal's 'Answer With Fever' (part 1 and part 2), Lyta/Sheridan, NC-17, and [livejournal.com profile] rivendellrose's The Things You Know, Sheridan, Delenn and Lennier. Both beautifully written, and both wonderful at dealing with the fine balance of canon relationships, of whatever variety. Go! Read!
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It was my last shift at the library until January today. The place is dead; I spoke to four patrons the whole day. My last patron of 2006, though, was a man who wanted to order a thesis up from store but couldn't remember its title - or its author - or its year of publication - or whether it was a Masters or a PhD - or which department it fell under - or any of the words in its title - or anything specific enough to be useful about its subject - so, well, that took a while. Patrons of the world, write stuff down.
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Dear Father Christmas: I have been good this year. Please bring me:
- This outfit )
- Shoes to go with the outfit
- Legs to go with the shoes
Thanks.
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7,571 words of a 10k chapter. Bah.

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